Comments on: Self-modeling when learning a language http://blog.noizeramp.com/2008/08/28/self-modeling-when-learning-language/ Am I a finished product -- or a work in progress? Thu, 08 Jan 2009 21:45:09 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: Aleksey Gureiev http://blog.noizeramp.com/2008/08/28/self-modeling-when-learning-language/comment-page-1/#comment-50782 Aleksey Gureiev Tue, 14 Oct 2008 19:37:43 +0000 http://blog.noizeramp.com/2008/08/28/self-modeling-when-learning-language/#comment-50782 Certainly there are. People in different parts of our huge country speak quite differently. Some stress "O", others "A", some articulate all sounds very carefully, others speak faster and blur many transitions between syllables. IMO, the biggest shift is when you start over. New people see you for the first time, and you have all chances to develop new habits and ways to convey your ideas somehow differently from what you are used to. Certainly there are. People in different parts of our huge country speak quite differently. Some stress “O”, others “A”, some articulate all sounds very carefully, others speak faster and blur many transitions between syllables.

IMO, the biggest shift is when you start over. New people see you for the first time, and you have all chances to develop new habits and ways to convey your ideas somehow differently from what you are used to.

]]> By: Raphael http://blog.noizeramp.com/2008/08/28/self-modeling-when-learning-language/comment-page-1/#comment-50779 Raphael Tue, 14 Oct 2008 18:22:55 +0000 http://blog.noizeramp.com/2008/08/28/self-modeling-when-learning-language/#comment-50779 Happens to me all the time (with English, as well as with French when I began learning it). I've also had people point it out to me that "you become somebody else when you speak English", which I took for a compliment of some sort... The fun thing is, it doesn't only work with entire languages, but also with local dialects. (Are there local dialects in Russian?) Keep having fun I guess :-) Happens to me all the time (with English, as well as with French when I began learning it). I’ve also had people point it out to me that “you become somebody else when you speak English”, which I took for a compliment of some sort…

The fun thing is, it doesn’t only work with entire languages, but also with local dialects. (Are there local dialects in Russian?)

Keep having fun I guess :-)

]]> By: R00KIE http://blog.noizeramp.com/2008/08/28/self-modeling-when-learning-language/comment-page-1/#comment-49719 R00KIE Fri, 29 Aug 2008 14:09:20 +0000 http://blog.noizeramp.com/2008/08/28/self-modeling-when-learning-language/#comment-49719 Well ... yes. It is curious indeed, I find it easier to say some things in English too, but I guess its because for us non native speakers the meaning isn't as strong as in our mother language, or maybe because it just sounds a lot nicer to say it in English. Who knows .... maybe we should get some funding ( the more the merrier :p ) to study this hehe. This wouldn't be as crazy as it seems, take a look at this http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7575459.stm Well … yes. It is curious indeed, I find it easier to say some things in English too, but I guess its because for us non native speakers the meaning isn’t as strong as in our mother language, or maybe because it just sounds a lot nicer to say it in English. Who knows …. maybe we should get some funding ( the more the merrier :p ) to study this hehe.

This wouldn’t be as crazy as it seems, take a look at this http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7575459.stm

]]> By: Aleksey Gureiev http://blog.noizeramp.com/2008/08/28/self-modeling-when-learning-language/comment-page-1/#comment-49704 Aleksey Gureiev Thu, 28 Aug 2008 17:27:26 +0000 http://blog.noizeramp.com/2008/08/28/self-modeling-when-learning-language/#comment-49704 The thing is that I intentionally chose such a simple expression to illustrate my point. This one exists in almost any language (if not in all), but for some reason I find it "acceptable" to use in English, while never use in Russian. To put it in a slightly different perspective, I "can see myself saying this in English" and "can't see myself saying this in Russian". What it means logically is that I'm seeing myself as a different person in different language contexts. Curious... The thing is that I intentionally chose such a simple expression to illustrate my point. This one exists in almost any language (if not in all), but for some reason I find it “acceptable” to use in English, while never use in Russian.

To put it in a slightly different perspective, I “can see myself saying this in English” and “can’t see myself saying this in Russian”. What it means logically is that I’m seeing myself as a different person in different language contexts. Curious…

]]> By: R00KIE http://blog.noizeramp.com/2008/08/28/self-modeling-when-learning-language/comment-page-1/#comment-49703 R00KIE Thu, 28 Aug 2008 15:36:20 +0000 http://blog.noizeramp.com/2008/08/28/self-modeling-when-learning-language/#comment-49703 Hmmm .... interesting. I guess in a way we do change a little bit when learning a new language but I wouldn't say it changes you completely. I guess your example is just one of the cases where you like a foreign expression and use it. On the other hand I guess that you can change if you really want, a fresh start, as no one knows you, so you can shape yourself to be as you want to be (or at least try :p ). Hmmm …. interesting. I guess in a way we do change a little bit when learning a new language but I wouldn’t say it changes you completely.
I guess your example is just one of the cases where you like a foreign expression and use it. On the other hand I guess that you can change if you really want, a fresh start, as no one knows you, so you can shape yourself to be as you want to be (or at least try :p ).

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